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Sunday, January 08, 2006

When is an extremist not an extremist?

When Chuckles decides to ignore them.

Here are some Middle East extremists Charles Johnson will never mention.

24 comments:

moonbat monitor said...

I agree. I am seriously worried about Jews coming over here and ramming planes into skyscrapers. Darn jews are always blowing things up.

MJ said...

Typical moronic LGF'er. Who mentioned anything about crashing planes into skyscrapers? The question is about Middle Eastern extremists. Are these groups not extremists? Are the Arabs civilians they've killed not victims of terror? Or are terrorists only people who 'threaten' the US?

Seems to me like this is the typical LGF line. If it doesn't threaten the US it isn't our problem.

Repug said...

I agreed with moonbat monitors.Jews just danced and filmed on 9/11 and opppppps get caught by FBI.

FBI kicked their ass though!!

http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=75266&contrassID=2&subContrassID=1&sbSubContrassID=0&listSrc=Y

Pere Ubu said...

Seems to me like this is the typical LGF line. If it doesn't threaten the US it isn't our problem.

Exactly - this is why they can spew their idiot line "gotta fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" while Brits, Aussies, Spaniards and Iraqis get killed. If it doesn't affect someone they know personally it isn't really "terrorism".

moonbat monitor said...

maybe they are extremists, but jewish extremism is not nearly the threat that islamic fundamentalism is. I worry more about being eaten by a polar bear than I do about those darn eeeevil jooooos.

adultmalebluegrouse said...

Moonbat Monitor, like most LGFers seems to think terrorism started on 9/11.

Who was that guy who shot Yitzhak Rabin? I think assasinations of Prime Ministers are still classed as acts of terror.
Or doesnt that count because he is Jewish?

/sarc


Does the King David hotel bombing ring a bell? That was the attack that is generally agreed gave birth to modern political terrorism.

moonbat monitor said...

I'd love for any of you here to honestly say that "jewish fundamentalism" is as much a threat as islamic fundamentalism is. Personally, I don't think it is, but hey, we're all entitled to our opinions.

I suggest checking out religionofpeace.com - it lists terrorist attacks attributed to islamic fundamentalism, (all 4,000 of them since 9/11/01) and the casualty toll. Pere ubu, just an admission that muslim nutjobs are the biggest threat to humanity at this point is all I'd like to hear from one of the regulars at this site.

I can agree with you on one thing - fundamentalism on any kind that directly targets civilians is wrong, regardless of the motivation, be it religious or not. I'm not disputing that at all.

adultmalebluegrouse said...

'Jewish extremism is not nearly the threat that Islamic fundamentalism is.'


Obviously not to you, no. Your name isnt Yitzhak Rabin. So is terrorism only important when it affects you personally? Is that your point.

Roxabunch said...

Blah, blah, blah Hall Monitor. Try to argue with the grown-ups here for a while and stop putting words in other people's mouths.
No one said fundamentalist Jews were going to crash planes or that they're better or worse than fundamentalist Muslims.
Get your racist trash back over to the kid's table now and don't come around pouting when you think you've got something to say.

Repug said...

The Jooo extremists are as evil as the fundy Muslims.

but what about those Joo extremists wearing the IDF uniforms and killing the civilians and called it hmm, opps,we are attacking bad people only?

why aren't they being called fucking terrorists?????????

why used the power of language to justify one race's crime and not another?

MJ said...

I think MM is typical of the Ann Coulter class. All terrorists are Muslims....end of conversation. Forget about Jewish extremists, communists, Hindus, Tamil Tigers, Irish Republicans, Ulster loyalists etc etc....

Despite proof to the contrary they continue to follow their bigoted belief that a terrorist is someone who seeks to 'destroy' the US.

PS Moonbat Monitor, who of us here was saying that Jewish extremism is as bad as Muslim extremism? None of us. Count 'em, none. The point of the piece is that Jewish extremism and terrorism is being given a free pass by right wing racist sites like LGF because it suits the rabble of right wing christians, wannabe American zionists (who remind me of white middle class youth wanting to be ghetto rappers), gun nuts, survivalists, neo-con flunkies and racist scumbags who reside there. Believe me, as soon as Israel isn't politically important to the right, neo-con, evangelist agenda they'll be anti-Jewish as the next group.

In fact, considering the reaction to Sharon's moves to peace....they're a bunch of jew haters already.

moonbat monitor said...

thank you for the admission. Now that we've cleared that up, I hope you understand why there are several web sites that deal with islamic fundamentalism instead of the other fundamentalist groups. Some of you've said that I only care about terrorism that affects the U.S., and to an extent, you are right. I don't really see anything wrong with wanting to deal with an enemy that wants to kill all of us first and foremost. To me, doing anything else would be stupid and suicidal. Not that that lessens the barbarism of other terrorist attacks though. So everyone here, go ahead and harp on the IDF soldiers, men and women that are forced to stand guard 24/7 because of the constant terrorist threat by Palestinians, and how horrible you think they are for defending themselves and their nation. In the meantime, I'm glad we've got people in charge here that have their eyes open and see who the enemies of the U.S. are, and not individuals that try to morally equivelate IDF soldiers and savages that behead aid workers and use god to justify it.

MJ said...

thank you for the admission. Now that we've cleared that up

1. What admission?
2. Cleared what up?

Some of you've said that I only care about terrorism that affects the U.S., and to an extent, you are right.

No, we said you only consider terrorism commited against the US and her allies as terrorism. You are a typical 9/11 Republican....happy to fund Islamic Extremism...not so happy when they use the expert CIA knowledge and funding to kill Americans.

So everyone here, go ahead and harp on the IDF soldiers, men and women that are forced to stand guard 24/7 because of the constant terrorist threat by Palestinians, and how horrible you think they are for defending themselves and their nation.

Shooting dead rock throwing children is not defending their land, neither is dropping bombs on population areas or killing peace activists, journalists and UN observers.

and not individuals that try to morally equivelate IDF soldiers and savages that behead aid workers and use god to justify it.

The IDF use snipers....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/suffolk/4534620.stm

...in defence of a country born out of the belief that it was promised to the Jews by god.

moonbat monitor said...

thank you colin for letting your jew-hating colors shine through. I knew I would eventually get one of you hatemongers to show your face.

for the record Colin - terrorism is terrorism, regardless of who commits it. And yes, I'm most concerned with those terrorists that want to kill me and destroy my country. I don't apologize for that viewpoint.

It's also well known that the IDF have shown great patience when dealing with these "rock throwing children" in the past, hardly, if ever opening fire on them. To say otherwise is either stupid, or an example of yourself being the victim of propaganda.

And if the IDF use snipers, so be it. They're not sniping kids like you claim they are, they target terrorists.

And in reponse to your last point, I'm just wondering if you believe that Israel should be wiped off the map or moved to Europe, like the President of Iran said. You make it sound as if Israel's existance is illegetimate when you say things like "in defence of a country born out of the belief that it was promised to the Jews by god." Again, just wondering.

I sense some serious jew-haters in here now.

MJ said...

Ah, the old Jew hater defence (favored mainly by non-Jewish, mouthbreathing morons)....Quote one anti-semitic remark in my entire post or shut up.

I don't think Israel should be wiped off the map, or destroyed or indeed merged with Palestine (you numbskulls honestly think everyone who disagrees with your petty, strawman making, intellectually redundant arguments think the same don't you?). I do however think it needs to radically change it's stance on the need for a Palestinian homeland (and rather than support a government that has repeatedly failed to make headway, I support people like B'Tselem and other Jewish movements).

I merely picked up on your remark that Palestinians were chopping of heads in the name of Allah (which they haven't by the way) is similar to IDF snipers murdering UN officials in UN compounds in the name of security. Israel is a nation based on a promise of the land to the Jews by God....to mock Muslims of feeling the same way about Palestine smacks of hypocrisy (and stupidity).

Are you Jewish MM? Or are you as I suspect some inbred hick from middle America playing politics with other peoples faith and race? Who the fuck are you to speak for Israel and it's people?

Israel is only gaining support on the right because of its use in the war on terror and the belief of a rapture Christian President in the forthcoming apocalypse (I'm sure Jewish people really appreciate that kind of support for their well-being).

Now run along to your little echo chamber at LGF, where you can discuss nuking Mecca with all the other intellectually challenged morons.

adultmalebluegrouse said...

'rabble of right wing christians,wannabe American zionists, gun nuts, survivalists, neo-con flunkies,racist scumbags'

Lol! Hey, I'ts a broad church!



I dont think MM is Jewish, his Israel arguments are all poorly rehearsed and misdirected. I suspect its Pablo / Powderfinger from LGF. On message as usual.

Pere Ubu said...

Pere ubu, just an admission that muslim nutjobs are the biggest threat to humanity at this point is all I'd like to hear from one of the regulars at this site.

And here I thought gay marriage was the biggest threat to humanity at this point! /sarcasm

Personally here in the U.S. I'm a little more concered about Christian vigilante-types like McVeigh than any Islamic terrorist. Other countries have other problems. Your world-view starts and ends with your hatred of Islam, therefore you ignore terrorism that doesn't fit your prejudices.

In fact I'd say political terrorism has had a MUCH higher death toll than Islamic terrorism, but are you flogging web sites that list deaths by, say, Nazi or other "Western" fascist groups? Nope, doesn't look like it to me.

adultmalebluegrouse said...

I think the biggest threat to humanity is our finite natural resources and our addiction to oil. Oh. And too much power in too few hands.

But hey, I'm a liberal what do I know?

moonbat monitor said...

pere ubu...just wondering what sites are out there that keep a running tally of terrorist acts committed by western nations. If you have one, please put it in comments. I would like to look at it. Particularly since 9/11 if possible, considering islamic fundamentalists are the ones that want to kill us all and seem to be acting on it.

oh, and colin w - looks like we'll have to agree to disagree on IDF soldiers being terrorists. I don't think they are considering Israel has been attacked at one time or another by every nation that borders it, and one that doesn't. I don't blame them for taking a hardline approach. Let us not forget that they are under constant threat of terror every hour of every day as well. It's sad to see islamic fundies blame a nation the size of massachusettes with only a few million citizens that is surround by enemies for all the misfortune of muslims everywhere. I don't agree with it.

again pere ubu, I've already said that I am more concerned with Islamic fundies than other terrorist groups. The muslim nutjobs are the ones that want to wipe us out. If you call that "hatred of islam," then so be it. I'm not here to change your mind or your opinion of myself, just offering a viewpoint. And again, I'll say that no act of terror, regardless of who commits it, is any more or less barbaric than any other. It is all wrong. I just don't see why we as a nation should waste our resources on terrorist groups that aren't a threat to us. Deal with the ones that want to kill us. We're stretched thin enough as it is. Why bother with Hindu fundies or Pat Robertson? It doesn't seem practical to me.

Make sense? yes? no?

Pere Ubu said...

Just a note:

"kill us all".

O-Kay. Explain to me where you get this from, given one attack on the country that killed a fraction of a percentage of American citizens.

funny thing, Americans still being able to walk around in Islamic countries like Pakistan, Indonesia, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait etc. if they're going to "kill us all".

Shorter LGF wingnut:
"I'm a pompous warmongering bedwetting crybaby who loves to hear myself maunder."

moonbat monitor said...

i said they want to "kill us all" - well, either that or convert mankind to islam and it's been said time and time again by these insane islamic fundies. if they get their hands on atomic bombs, the damage they could do to our society could be irreversible, which doesn't really seem to bother you. That was my point with the "kill us all" statement. If you think they wouldn't use nukes to try and destroy us, your head is in the sand. Look what one attack in NYC did to this nation economically, then think about the damage that could be done with this type of wmd. It's scary, and if you don't think so, then we'll have to agree to disagree.

I am aware that people can walk around islamic countries, as I know that it's not a majority of muslims, not by a longshot, that believe in this warped ideology. But to respond to that point you made, there are enough crazies out there to throw the world into chaos. It doesn't take a hight percentage of nuts to screw things up for everyone else. I also think the problem is much bigger than just the terrorists. Time after time, I've seen polls taken that show that the general populations of some of these countries, (palestine mostly, but also Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Iran) actually sympathize with the terrorists. That is the larger problem to me - Cultures that will tolerate, accept, sympathize and in some cases outright support or be involved in personally, attacks that target innocent civilians. This is what allows this sick ideology to fester and spread throughout the world.

If we do nothing and just say "oh, it's only a fraction of a percentage that want to hurt us," it would be a huge mistake, in my opinion. One that potentially cost millions of lives and mean economic destruction.

If you want to worry more about the "tim mcveighs" of the world, go ahead. They are definitely scary as heck. But to me, like I've said, The islamic fundies have an ideology, a following, a support system, and general populations in their homelands that seem willing to tolerate them, be it out of sympathy or fear. I feel they are the most dangerous at this time.

MJ said...

MM, we're obviously going to disagree. But do me one favour eh?

Read this.

http://www.antiwar.com/utley/?articleid=8376

and this

http://amconmag.com/2006/2006_01_16/buchanan.html

adultmalebluegrouse said...

Nuc-u-lar weapons are practically useless as a weapon of a war that you intend to win. They provide better return on investment as a deterrent.

I really dont think it would be game over for LittleGreenFootballers around the world if a Muslim country got the bomb. Pakistan already has it and it hasnt turned them into mushroom cloud laying mutherfuckas overnight.
What id did do however, is get them a seat on the top table on the 'war on terror' and political influence.

Iran wants it because of national pride and because Israel already has it and they have already threatened to use it in the past.

I disagree Pablo. I think a nucular Iran will bring greater stability to the Middle East. Not less.

moonbat monitor said...

whoa colin, ease up. I'll be the first to agree that Robertson is a kook and a half. He is like Iran's president, I have to agree - they are both as crazy as shithouse rats.

btw, i'm not a christian. I'm agnostic :) I think all organized religion eventually ends up being the a cause of war, to be honest. History would probably agree with me also. good article though.