LGF Connects Some Dots

This post has absolutely nothing to do with the picture, I just cannot stop posting it. OK, I'm finally getting around to posting this. Charles has fired another shot today at his nemesis Robert Spencer by linking to an article about Spencer by Kejda Gjermani (Medaura at LGF):

Connecting Some Dots

Opinion | Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 9:48:09 pm PST

Kejda Gjermani has been researching some Connections.

From Gjermani's article:

While I don’t think Spencer and his associates stand a chance of implementing what I fear are their stealth policies, their shrill and unfortunately universally accepted identification with “the counter-jihadist movement” is severely detrimental to the efforts of respectable intellectuals standing up to Islamofascism. Front groups for radical Islamist interests — along with their Western apologists — conveniently employ such critics of compromised backgrounds as straw men against any legitimate scrutiny of their own activities. I believe everyone acquainted with Robert Spencer’s work should consider the causes he is involved with and the company he keeps before lending him support; this is one more reason for me to write about him....

....At this point, I would like to briefly revisit the recent online debacle over Robert Spencer being caught joining a genocidal Facebook group championing the “Reconquest of Anatolia,” which would be accomplished through the ethnic cleansing and forced sterilization of the Turkish population. Anyone disposed to charitably dismiss the evil lunacy espoused by the group as merely hyperbolic sentiment ought to remember that Robert Spencer is closely associated with a man who has personally participated in an actual ethnic-cleansing campaign of similar proportions. Spencer’s family background is a reasonable fit for irredentist intentions toward Turkey, not to mention his seething hatred for everything Muslim/Islamic:

This article is rather interesting to anyone interested in Spencer beyond merely agreeing with everything he writes, and I highly recommend it, as write-ups of Spencer are rare but starting to gain more prominence online. I must also note that Gjermani mentions the fact that Spencer has threatened legal action against her, and that he does this rather regularly to people who write about him without agreeing with him and heaping praise upon him.

Here's one comment from the LGF post, and I fully expect for Spencer to fire back at this attack, so there may well be much more to post on on this subject. One thing's clear though, Johnson's not giving these attacks up anytime soon. So follow the links, have fun, enjoy that someone other than me is attacking Spencer seriously, and were Sphinx not on sabbatical, I'd say "pass the popcorn", but alas.....

9 Fat Jolly Penguin 2/24/09 10:01:57 pm reply quote

re: #6 FurryOldGuyJeans

Some will never accept the truth of the ties.

Spencer himself, for example.

LGF, HOME TO RACIST TRASH

As long time LGF watchers know, "Zombie" is a well known contributor to LGF, often referred to as "An LGF Operative", example:

LGF, PJ Media, Zombie Team Up for Convention Coverage
Little Green Footballs ^ | 8-24-08 | Charles Johnson

Posted on Mon Aug 25 11:07:54 2008 by SeafoodGumbo

We have something special planned for the Democratic Convention this coming week!

Little Green Footballs and Pajamas Media are joining forces to send the undead creature known only as Zombie to the Convention, for the kind of exclusive, slightly bent coverage only an undead creature can provide.

(SNIP)

Zombie’s reports will begin tomorrow, the opening day of the Convention. The reports will appear simultaneously at LGF and PJ Media; here at LGF they’ll show up as front page articles just like the ones I post.

We’re looking forward to this week; there’s no way to tell when or how often Zombie’s reports will show up, so stay tuned to LGF and PJ for the latest.

Way to go, LGF!

Zombie: crazy or just stupid?

Or maybe both?

In last night's Academy Awards thread, the undead one, Charles' faithful doppelänger, pontificated thusly:



(Note the +13 rating.)

A cursory browse through the past 30 Best Picture winners reveals that only 5 of them fall into any of these categories -- or 6, if one accepts Zombie's bizarre insinuation that Slumdog Millionaire is somehow a Muslim story, as opposed to a story about a protagonist who happens to be a Muslim.

I haven't seen Slumdog Millionaire, so I can't comment on this claim, except to say that if there really are coded jihadi messages embedded in it, they seem to have escaped the attention of pretty much the entire right-wing commentariat up to now.

As for Best Picture winners with gay themes, one has to go all the way back to 1969's Midnight Cowboy. And as far as I can tell, no "prostitute-with-a-heart-of-gold" picture has ever won an Oscar, at least not during this Modern Era of Political Correctness that Zombie so snarkily bemoans.

Has the strain of living in America's most liberal city, and the resulting conflict between his or her innate live-and-let-live-ism and the need to pander to an über-Republican audience, finally made Zombie snap? That's the only logical explanation.

Comment of the Week

From one of my new favorite LGF threads ever:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32839_Robert_Spencer_Echoes_the_Islamists_
He_Opposes/comments/

The very last comment to come in, and so chock full of hypocrisy that it's just begging to be re-posted, so here it is:

206 notutopia 2/20/09 7:54:24 pm reply quote

Robert Spencer just keeps digging himself deeper and deeper into the hole of no return to incredibility. His "anti-jihad" and hatred of Islam has obsessively lured him into associations with the worst of allies. He's done this to himself. No one puts words in his mouth. No one has forced him to associate himself with anti-semitics and nazi fascists. His failure to unequivocally dissociate himself from a group of white nationalists advocating the expulsion of all Muslims from Turkey is ludicrous.
Then, came this latest issue with his accusations of being "set up" to join a nazi connected Facebook account, by invitation of Charles and Cato the Elder, is just repulsive. This is shear paranoia. There is No substance to validate this accusation, other than fear, and then he reacts to his own fear, by threatening a lawsuit against them?
He has sabotaged his own credibility and lost his integrity. Now, he is panicking, rather than redress his digressions. I pity him. He continues to refuse to address: reality, himself, and his lurid associations. I said this before, He should be GRATEFUL to Charles and Cato, if he truly had made this Facebook joining in haste and error.

Spencer, if you truly want to be known and remembered as a man of integrity, then this is how you do it. Rebuke your hate loving, genocide advocating associates! Save your money on the lawyers, and stop the threats and intimidation. You have to own up and take personal responsibility for your own bad decisions, actions, behaviors and associations. Mr. Spencer, your expert voice on Islam and against "jihad", will be all for naught, and will fall on deafened ears. NO one with wisdom or knowledge of the facts of your associations, will hear you, believe you, or support you or your work.

Wait, I just got that from LGF?

10,000 Anti-Muslim Maniacs

(Sorry for the length here, I thought it was rather worth it; cross posted at Gates of Vienna Vs. The World Vs. LGF)

It was really only a matter of time. Lizard Queen Sharmuta alerted Charles Johnson to the OUTRAGE of Pamela Geller after her hilarious handling by The National Post in the thread in which Johnson attacked Robert Spencer today (sounding like a soap opera yet? Oh, but it really is....) and Charles started sniffing around like the hound he is. Not like a journalist mind you. Oh, no. We're far from that realm here, which is exactly why we here post about it, and exactly why Chris Selley of The National Post ripped into Pamela Geller as well. But what's a good Blog War Soap Opera without repercussions? Enter Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs, just like the gloating daytime beauty queen evil mastermind on TV, here to post on Pamela's minor downfall:

The story of one of the most disgusting publicity stunts I think I’ve ever heard of: Chris Selley: How not to memorialize Aqsa Parvez.

Johnson then quotes the article, which was covered by us here, then adds his commentary:

But the craziness doesn’t stop there. Geller also claimed that Barack Obama was the love child of Malcolm X. Yep, really. Her loony post made it into the Comedy Central Indecision 2008 blog, but she was not joking.

Come on Charles, there's obviously so much more you could have done with this story! It's just that Charles is not entirely in on the joke because he is also part of the joke. This is, after all, the man who had just accused Robert Spencer of stooping to the tactics of the mutual targets of both men, "the islamists", so it wouldn't exactly behoove him to get too giddy over Pamela being outraged at having been called "an anti-Muslim maniac". Still, give us something, Chuckles!, something more than the comments section:

3 Racer X 2/20/09 3:15:06 pm reply quote

Don't forget her Nirth Certifikate!

8 teleskiguy 2/20/09 3:16:39 pm reply quote

We need less people like this on our side making waves, and more people like Charles hollerin' loud 'n clear! It's people like Geller who delegitimize what is an absolutely legitimate (and RIGHT, pun intended)point of view. Thank you Charles, for exposing these effing nutballs on our side.

"On our side"?!? "Exposing"?? Um, OK...

10 Bloodnok 2/20/09 3:16:58 pm reply quote

Don't worry, Robert Spencer will probably threaten to sue the author for her. /

13 Dark_Falcon 2/20/09 3:18:59 pm reply quote

Oh, BTW, Charles pointed this out on an earlier thread: Check out the comments. Our former friend, Robert Spencer, stops by to vomit out some his own deranged bile.

Uh oh, looks like I have an update to do.....

26 eon 2/20/09 3:23:02 pm reply quote

With people like Geller, etc., on "my side" (and I use the term extremely loosely), I think I'm beginning to get a fair idea of what a traditional liberal (like Joe Lieberman) feels like when having to talk to the likes of, say, the guy from DailyKos.

It's like trying to explain Einstein's Theory of Relativity (that, among other things, pretty much limits space travel to speeds below 300,000 km/sec) to a "UFO contactee" type. (Good luck with that one. I've tried.)

cheers

eon

Tell me this guy is starting to get a clue and not just rapidly sinking....

59 Anthony (Los Angeles) 2/20/09 3:34:09 pm reply quote

I gave a little money for that headstone, because I felt terrible (then and now) for yet another victim of honor killing -- and who, at the time, had only a pauper's marker, if I recall right. And now I'm sorry it's become such a damnable football. Aqsa Pervez doesn't deserve that.

I stopped reading Atlas a couple of years ago because her shrillness and all-or-nothing views. As a UK friend of mine would put it, she doesn't just go over the top: she's over the top and three trenches deep before the whistle even blows. Now I wish I had listened to my rational side and stayed away this time, too.

61 Killgore Trout 2/20/09 3:35:29 pm reply quote

I don't feel the plan to erect a memorial or buy a gravestone is terribly inappropriate, although I can see the argument. But what is very clear is that Pamela's rabid antics and crazy conspiracy theories have lead people in the real world to consider her a nut and a problem. It's easy to get sucked into the accolades from fellow nuts on the internet but that doesn't change the fact that she's still a nut in the real world. Normal people don't want to be involved with her.
Judging from her reaction to this article it's pretty clear that she doesn't see the problem.

66 Killgore Trout 2/20/09 3:38:13 pm reply quote

re: #62 snowcrash

She should get permission to plant a tree and lay a plaque at the deceased girls high school where other young people can remember her by name.

She tried that but the school refused to allow it because of Pamela's nuttiness.

67 VioletTiger 2/20/09 3:38:44 pm reply quote

re: #61 Killgore Trout
Agree. And nuts attract nuttier nuts.

88 nyc redneck 2/20/09 3:45:20 pm reply quote

pamela's dog and pony show is so inappropriate for such a solemn occasion.
barging her way into this and taking over.
maybe the girl has some family members who care for her.
or pamela could have worked w/ her friends and let them make decisions since they actually know her.
mourning a loved one is a personal thing.
pamela may have meant well but she needs to learn some discretion and subtlety, even if it an issue she feels strongly abt.
other wise it looks like the whole thing is abt. her and not the deceased young woman who was murdered by her father in the name of islam.
this tragedy is abt. sensitivity and awareness.
not self promotion.

Pssst....it's all self-promotion, redneck!

101 Cato the Elder 2/20/09 4:06:21 pm reply quote

[...] in my non-professional opinion, she’s at least a few chickpeas short of a falafel.

Over on Atlas Simpers, crazy Pam takes this as evidence that the author is a anti-Semite.

Not kidding.
102 NY Nana 2/20/09 4:06:46 pm reply quote

re: #77 Killgore Trout

This thread should be kept as the top thread for a week, at least, for anyone who wonders why we are so anti-Geller LOOK AT ME, ME, ME!

I never even entertained the idea that she could go any lower than the night when she went after Charles, her 'blog daddy' . Was I ever wrong! She keeps going lower, lower and lower, and I will bet that she has yet to reach bottom.

Sorry for the caps and the bold, but yes, I am that pissed.

OK Sphinx, hope you made the popcorn, it's time to pass it around. Pastorius gets negative ratings for trying to stand up for Pamela and Sharmuta talks big about being a feminist. Seriously! This is a moment of hilarious twisted beauty for LGF:

109 Pastorius 2/20/09 5:09:57 pm reply quote

61 Kilgore, 62, and 64,
Pamela's efforts have unmasked her family. Her family really does not want her to be honored with a headstone. They really want her to lie in an unmarked grave.

Whatever one might think of Pamela, for whatever reason, she has done well in this case.
110 Pastorius 2/20/09 5:14:47 pm reply quote

Without a name behind it, no effort to raise money for Aqsa would have been successful at all.

Pamela has traffic. Traffic means she has a name. She lent her name to the cause.

If I lent my name to the cause, very little money would be raised.

Good on her. She did well.

111 Sharmuta 2/20/09 5:18:48 pm reply quote


One of the reasons why I'm critical of islam is because I am a feminist, that is that I believe in a woman's right to self determination. Obviously, it was a right Ms. Parvez was denied, and her attempt to have any control over her own life was paid for with her own blood. Demanding respect for a woman once she's already dead is too late, and I have seen nothing to suggest that Ms Geller is concerned, much less aware, about the feminist movement within islam. Rather it seems she is predominately concerned with herself. Ms Parvez was exploited in life by islamic misogyny, and didn't need to be exploited in death so an egomaniac could look as though she cares about the fate of muslim women. For indeed- Ms Geller hasn't apparently taken the time to consider the fate of muslim women throughout europe should her friends in vlaams belang gain all the political power they so desperately want. Rather, these women would be getting thrown to the wolves in being forced to go live in islamic societies where their murders would likely go unpunished. This gravestone would not stop a single additional honor killing from taking place. But pamela wants to think she's doing something about the issue. She's not in the slightest, and for her to think otherwise is delusional.

112 researchok 2/20/09 5:19:47 pm reply quote

Let's put the fire out.

Geller deserves appreciation for her efforts- Parvez deserves better than an unmarked grave. That said, turn the funds raised over to her friends, those who loved her and knew her best. Let them determine the best way to memorialize Aqsa Parvez.
113 researchok 2/20/09 5:23:47 pm reply quote

re: #109 Pastorius

You are right. Whether one agrees with Geller's politics or ideology or not, this particular effort is worthy.

Find a way, make it work.

114 TheGrandMufti[deleted] 2/20/09 5:24:43 pm

That's the Lizard spirit! Take the project on yourselves! Or, um, do what Charles says....



See, Summer has it down to a science:

117 Summer 2/20/09 5:34:54 pm reply quote


It is amazing to me what Pamela actually does for attention. Let's face it, she's an attention whore.

She has no subtlety, no wit, no intelligence. All she has is rage.

She appears to believe that rage was what made Oriana Fallaci famous, or what gave her last stand validity above the rest. She is unable to comprehend that Oriana had a lifetime of sage words behind that rage. If all you see are Oriana's final words, you might be sorely tempted to dismiss them until you read more about her history and work.

That is what gave Oriana's rage the validity it had earned. Oriana wasn't just any idiot ranting the way Pamela rants; Oriana was one of the best and had earned that right.

Rage was not all that Oriana had expressed. Rage was the culmination of seeing the betrayal of what she spent a lifetime expressing.

Pamela has no credit to her name. All that Pamela started with was rage. The more time passes, the louder she gets. Pamela isn't finishing her career with an operatic loud masterpiece of an aria, she thinks she can start it and get louder than the last one on stage.

That isn't how it works, Pamela. Sometimes, a loud song is fine, but most people want to hear music most of the time.

Most sane people, anyway.

Pamela, why don't you shut yourself down for a while and take a sabbatical for, say, a year? Try to relax. Try to breathe the air and travel and interview people. Become the great reporter that Oriana was before she earned the right to write a masterpiece of a rant. Perhaps you'll see what you've been all along.

For now, all you do is rant. But good rants are also sewn with skill, wit, and experience - none of which you have. Perhaps it would be a good idea to acquire them first before you try to pick up such a delicate brush.

Pamela, you are not Oriana Fallaci. You are not a masterful reporter with vast swathes of experience.

What you are, increasingly, is just unhinged.

OK, well the rest of the comments are here just waiting to be giggled over, so head on over and catch up while I polish this off with some classic Charles:

124 Charles 2/20/09 5:44:06 pm reply quote

re: #120 researchok

In an ideal world, you'd be right. It is none of our business. That said, the horses have been let out of the barn for a long time.

Really. So you agree it's nobody's business but the family's, but still think it's appropriate to stage a huge publicity stunt like this -- against the family's wishes?

In what way is this a "conservative" viewpoint -- to dictate to the family of a murdered girl how they should remember their daughter?

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32843_How_Not_to_Memorialize_Aqsa_Parvez/comments/

Where credit is due

On Charles' latest post as of now ( http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32809_Mission_Statement_of_the_Day ), we find something positive to report on:

Mission Statement of the Day

I’ve posted this many times in LGF comments, but with the increasing extremism of the so-called “anti-jihad movement,” it’s time to make it a front page post.

If you argue that it’s vitally necessary to deport the entire Muslim population of the United States, you are ADVOCATING MASS MURDER.

Yes, I’m shouting.

There is no way in hell that you can uproot millions of people, most of whom have done nothing wrong, and throw them all out of the country, without committing mass violence. People will resist this with all their hearts.

No decent American would stand for it. It’s an un-American, evil idea to its very core.

And not only that, it’s a stupid, empty, meaningless fantasy that will never happen. When you start ranting about it at LGF, you achieve nothing but to drag everyone here into the muck, and make us all look like extremists, fascists, and brain-dead morons. Only a very few comments like this appear at LGF, but they can tar the whole site by association.

Unfortunately, there are quite a few “anti-jihad” blogs that have no problem whatsoever with this kind of hate speech, and some that actually invite it, so if you really want to rave like a lunatic about it you can easily find somewhere that will let you. But I won’t tolerate it here, and if you post a comment advocating this reeking garbage heap of an idea, your comment will be deleted and your account will be history.

You know Charles, we probably don't and will not agree on a lot of things, but this is one of those points where we gladly show you both thumbs up. No seriously, consider this a round of applause from LGF Watch, and I say this not through gritted teeth, but with a sincere smile on my face.

So if any lizards are lurking around here, take note of this.

Alrighty then..

Charles Is He-Man!!!

I HAVE THE POWER!!!! Well, he acts like he does anyhow. And, um, the bad quality of the Photoshop is what gives it its' charm, OK? Anyways, After a particular user wrote about Charles on his own blog, Charles decided to pull one of his power-trip posts:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32797_Outing_a_Liar/comments/

Outing a Liar
Blogosphere | Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 4:55:01 pm PST

Here’s a guy who used to be a registered LGF commenter (“ElKafir”) with a post accusing me of “deceptive malevolence,” and claiming he never wrote a comment I attributed to him: Transsylvania Phoenix: To LGF’s Charles Johnson: You Really Lost It, Pal!

Well, unfortunately for this person, when I delete a comment at LGF, it’s simply removed from view, not gone for good.

Ooooh, oooh, he really means it! Unfortunately for "this person", who's probably not giving a damn about this post of Charles'....

And I’ve restored the viewable status of his comment, to prove that he did indeed write exactly what he’s claiming he didn’t write:

We must separate ourselves from this cancer of civilization called Islam

Mass deportations. Start with the non-citizens. Then continue with the naturalized and US born or converted muslims. Declare Islam a threat to the very existance of the Republic and its Constitution (afterall, in Islam the only accepted law is the Sharia and muslims everywhere in the world are taught their first duty is to obey the Islamic law and only after that to obey the laws of the countries they live in - with the condition those laws aren’t contradicting the Islamic laws).

Amend the Constitution, strip them all of citizenship, offer them the chance to become apostates and remain here in the civilized world or deport them if they refuse.

Make conversion and preaching Islam a crime punished either by life in prison or deportation. That would be a humaine measure when compared with the punishment for renouncing Islam in most islamic countries is death by decapitation.

Here’s the comment in the context of the thread from June 4th, 2007, in which you can see that other people reacted negatively to it, and reported it to me—leading to its deletion: Video: 60% of UK Muslims Deny 7/7 Bombings.

I guess he didn’t expect me to be able to do this, before he staked his reputation on a claim that was completely false, and publicly accused me of lying.

An apology would be in order at this point.

UPDATE at 2/16/09 7:56:38 pm:

And of course, now he’s accusing me of a grand conspiracy to smear him, by altering my database. Pathetic.

WTF is Charles talking about and so worked up over? Someone who used to post at his blog is doing something he doesn't like and Charles has lots of spare time in between his attacks on Spencer? I mean, come on Charles, you're supposed to run a notable blog here, not a space to pick on the minutiae of former "lizards".

To be honest, I don't even care what the issue is here. It's the fact that Charles shows up in the comments as many times as he does to rant and rave when he's supposedly too busy to even notice comments about him on Jihad Watch, Atlas Shrugs, etc.:

9 Charles 2/16/09 5:00:01 pm reply quote

This kind of thing is exactly why I coded the LGF Blog so that I could restore deleted comments.

35 Charles 2/16/09 5:05:36 pm reply quote
re: #24 JammieWearingFool

When was he banned? I noticed in his profile he's posted links and I believe that date (6/4/07) predates links. Must have said even dumber stuff later.

Date of banning:

2009-02-15 14:20:37

It was a meltdown over the creationism threads.

He still has the time stamp? Oh Charles, this is pathetic! Come on, show a little dignity here....

42 Charles 2/16/09 5:07:05 pm reply quote

I removed the IP block, which I put in place when he started emailing angry messages to me, so that he can experience this post.

OK, no dignity. I might add that I'm posting this with an IP block in place. So much for Charles Johnson, tek jeeenyus.

Cross-posted and longer at at govvs.

The Anti-Charles Pile On

Linked with fewer typos than usual, Pamela Geller has posted her latest outrage (yes, I know they come 300 times a day) at Charles Johnson, "War is Deceit--Little Green Liars":

Geert Wilders is a hunted man. He has lived the past few years with a 24/7/365 security presence. He lives under constant death threat because he speaks the truth about the violent doctrines of Islam. He has given over his life to fight for everything we cherish and hold dear - he is a hero. If the West writes the history books, he will take his place next to Churchill.

This campaign to destroy those fighting the overwhelming tsunami of the islamification of the West is not stupidity - it is evil. We expect such malevolent blathering from leftard apologists for Islamic jihad. But attacks from those that pretend to be part of the counter jihad movement are far more dangerous. Cloaked in an out of date legitimacy that expired well over a year ago, General Charles Sherman slashes and burns the few and the brave in a not so veiled attempt to decimate the ranks of the resistance.

I am surprised LGF even covered the Wilders banning in the UK -- but if you are a pretend counter jihadi, how could you not? So he did -- but not without whimpering exceptions and deceitful qualifiers.

This traitor to the cause would not even put Wilders' name in his headline --"Dutch MP Barred from Entering Britain." Imagine that. "Dutch MP" ... that's like calling Albert Einstein "German born scientist".

War is deceit -- so said the "prophet" Muhammad. I guess Chuck got the memo.

The question is - who's next? Who's left?

In the meantime, let's hope he is exposed for what he is and sticks to what he does best - exposing that scourge of our time - creationism!

"Who's left?" Apparently Andrew Bostom:

Over in the Lost Land of the Mendacious Very Little Green Craven One, and His Mindless Minions, there is a predictably distorted “discussion” of yesterday’s banning of Dutch Parliamentarian Geert Wilders from Britain, where Wilders was slated to show his film Fitna at the House of Lords.

Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer have informed discussions on the subject of Wilder’s banning.

Informed discussions? OK then, let's look at Robert Spencer's:

Ian Buruma said it awhile ago in the New York Times:

Whether Mr. Wilders has deliberately insulted Muslim people is for the judges to decide. But for a man who calls for a ban on the Koran to act as the champion of free speech is a bit rich.

Then Charles Johnson said it yesterday at the once-worthwhile site Little Green Footballs (no link, as the adolescent Johnson has blocked links from this site), as he continued to libel anti-jihadists with false charges of "smelly fascist associations"....

Charles' response? Just a bit in an unrelated thread as of now:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32739_Egyptian_Cleric-_Valentines_
Day_is_Worse_Than_AIDS_Ebola_and_Cholera/comments/

41 Charles 2/11/09 11:21:16 am reply quote

Speaking of hating love, fascist supporters all over the blogosphere are railing against me today, because I dared to criticize Geert Wilders for wanting to ban books and make religions illegal. I'm getting hate vibes through the ether.

And they can bite me.

Popcorn, anyone?

"The Body Count"

Oh, this was just too hilarious not to give its own post to. "The Body Count", found originally at Atlas Shrugs. A complete slam with odd photoshopping devoted to the power that Charles Johnson still holds over this sad little band of bloggers. I'm assuming that this came from Baron Bodissey and will soon find out, what with his quote about Johnson so prominent:

"As the arbiter of membership in the Counterjihad, Charles Johnson has finally made it official: he's a Counterjihad of one."

Is there anyone after this who isn't literally LOL? (Notice the absence of pictures of certain members of "The Body Count", notably Fjordman. The pic of Baron at far left is quite priceless though;) How on God's green Earth can these people take themselves seriously?

Charles Quote of the Week

Well, this week's goes to Charles Johnson. Way to slam Jihad Watch/Robert Spencer and Atlas Shrugs/Pamela Geller, Chuckles!

I tried to blow the whistle on this slide into ethnic nationalist crap, but I've been viciously attacked for it -- and by the same people who praised me for my other opinions. The "anti-jihad movement" (if there ever really was one) has become a bigoted mess of smelly fascist associations, and I want nothing to do with these people.

Charles Vs. Geert Wilders (and friends)

Wow, Chuckles must be reading my blog since he banned my IP address because this post is almost word for word what I've been saying about the Geert Wilders fiasco:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32732_Dutch_MP_Barred_from_Entering_Britain/comments/

(You'll probably have to cut and paste that one, I'm pretty sure he's blocked all of my links as well.)
Hat-tip: Jeppo

Dutch MP Barred from Entering Britain

World | Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 3:23:15 pm PST

Anti-Islam Dutch MP Geert Wilders has been barred from entering Britain, after a protest was lodged by Muslim House of Lords member Nazir Ahmed.

Yes, it’s a disgrace. Geert Wilders has the same right to free speech as anyone else, and the government of Britain is demonstrating once again that they’ve completely lost their way in a maze of multicultural contradictions.

However, Wilders himself does not deserve to be called an icon of free speech, since he explicitly wants to ban the Koran and make Islam illegal in Europe; in other words, he wants to take away other people’s freedom of speech and freedom of religion, and that is simply wrong. Book banning is what totalitarians do, not believers in free speech.

Also note that Wilders has recently announced he plans to form an alliance with the neofascist Belgian party Vlaams Belang.

So while I denounce Britain’s decision, I can’t support Wilders either while he maintains these positions and associations. Britain is wrong, and Wilders is also wrong. It’s a bad situation all around.

(Bold my emphasis, and truly, isn't this what I've been busy posting on? Maybe Spencer and Pamela Atlas will get the message now that its on LGF.)

Here's Sharmuta being utterly hilarious:

31 Sharmuta 2/10/09 3:33:43 pm reply quote

When will the Europeans start to take a more comprehensive, intellectual look at American principles? That limiting speech doesn't solve the underlying issues, but only masks them? That continuing with their anti-American sentiments makes it more difficult to consider alternative options to dealing with their issues?

We don't have everything perfect here in America, but what we did get right has allowed bigots to remain on the fringes where they belong, not masking their bigotry and gaining large following that legitimize them.

I know a lot of individual Europeans love America and Americans. What is wrong with the rest of them though? Embrace free speech! Embrace individual rights! And maybe from there some solutions to european issues could be found.

Then what the hell is Little Green Footballs, Sharmuta? Oh, and yes, you are on the fringes. I've seen LGF's Alexa traffic. Continuing:

(emphasis mine)

Now for Charles in comment #54:

Wilders' plans to ally with the VB have been confirmed to me by other sources.

And since Charles can't get enough of his own commentary:

119 Charles 2/10/09 4:58:24 pm reply quote

re: #117 Vik

The way you "defend yourself" against Islam is by using your power of free speech to argue, demonstrate and reveal what you think should be known. Not by banning religion, and taking away the rights of others.

Fascists ban books, and ban religions. Not people who believe in democracy.

Charles, the defender of free speech! As long as it isn't on his blog...um, yeah...

133 Charles 2/10/09 5:31:48 pm reply quote

re: #127 USBeast

Charles, I do not believe there are any "good ideas" regarding the situation in Europe, only ugly choices. I do not like any of them. I have no contact with neo-Nazis, fascists, Creationists, Truthers or Flat Earthers. I am not in a panic about Islam, but I am concerned about the fate of Western Civilization and consider free and open discussion of issues to be one of the bedrocks of that civilization.

If someone has been offended by any of my comments, please understand that no offense was intended.

I'm not offended - it's just that I've heard all of these arguments for compromising principles and hooking up with really bad people because "it's our only choice or we're doomed!" many times before.

I'm still surprised that people will actually argue that we should drop all our integrity and hook up with people who aren't even fit to be spat upon.

Hmmm, wonder who he's talking about here? (cough...Spencer...cough...Pamela)

199 Charles 2/10/09 8:18:54 pm reply quote


Anyone who advocates making Islam illegal or banning the Koran is living in a dream world. It's not going to happen. Ever. By advocating this crap, all you do is make yourself look like a fanatic.

If that's cool with you, then go ahead. Knock yourselves out.

202 Charles 2/10/09 9:11:45 pm reply quote

re: #201 Vik

Expose the imams, prosecute people who commit crimes, and use the military against stateless terrorist groups. We already have the methods in place to combat militant Islam.

You're dreaming if you think this country will criminalize speech. And if it ever does, it won't be a country I want to live in any more.

Chuckles, the problem solver of our century. Then again, he only posted this to anger his enemies and keep his little feud going. More popcorn anyone?

Posted in full here with even more charming comments.

Whose Free Speech?

Posted at Gates of Vienna Vs. The World Vs. LGF. I just reposted here for fun. I didn't post the whole enchilada as it has less to do with LGF but is still a "watch" type of post that includes the mindset of the "counter-jihadosphere" as seen also by LGF. The recent posts here including Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer encouraged me to post in part here. Enjoy!:


Sorry to take the tone to a more serious note here, but there have been many comments lately regarding freedom of speech, something I am all for (despite Robert Spencer's emailed accusations to the contrary). It is just glaringly obvious that the only free speech cried for by the "counter-jihadists" is for those critical of Islam yet they would happily see all Muslims silenced. Take the case of Dutch politician Geert Wilders for example, a case that is being pounded again and again at Jihad Watch and Atlas Shrugs, with links in both sidebars. Here is part of Spencer's take on the issue:

I have personally heard him sound much less cavalier and indifferent than this about this question, but ultimately that is immaterial. The whole purpose of free speech laws is to protect speech that the powerful find offensive, because it threatens their power. And that, as I explained above, is why this is happening.

He also once wrote in a national newspaper: "I've had enough of the Koran in the Netherlands: Forbid that fascist book."

"Forbid that fascist book"?!? This is a case for freedom of speech and expression? Why are they crying for free speech while supporting those who want to silence their own opposition? Ahh yes, base hypocrisy. Yet someone must call them on it, so here I am.

PAM ATLAS LURES ROBERT SPENCER TO COUGER DEN

Awww, Charles Doesn't Like Me :(

Just thought I'd share this one:



UPDATE: We're still on your site, tech genius.



Good thing I could log on and see that story. Yep.

R.I.PJM

John Cole is not impressed with Roger el-Simon's latest gambit, i.e. summarily dumping all the hard-working (if not particularly hard-thinking) bloggers who built JammieCorp into what it is today, and going to an all-video format.

There is so much to love about this, I don’t know where to start, but certainly Joe the Plumber bemoaning the lack of spending cuts and general program cuts in the stimulus bill was a highlight. It is almost as if he doesn’t have the first damned clue what he is talking about. A close runner-up would be Instapundit heralding Bush’s MBA as evidence of his awesome managerial skills. There was just so much to love, it is hard to narrow down the “best” parts.

I really don’t understand how bipartisanship is ever going to work when one of the parties is insane. Imagine trying to negotiate an agreement on dinner plans with your date, and you suggest Italian and she states her preference would be a meal of tire rims and anthrax. If you can figure out a way to split the difference there and find a meal you will both enjoy, you can probably figure out how bipartisanship is going to work the next few years.

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