Sometimes we get comments from our readers that are worth posting verbatim. Here's one from VN:
Michelle Obama is quoted calling America "downright mean". Do the indignant lizards respond with polite criticism? A rational discussion of her statement? Of course not. In a confusing attempt to refute her statement, they respond with hateful venom and insults.
#9 maddog: Don't like it? GTFO.See? Point proven! America is not mean.
#12 antishock8: Keep that fat mouth yappin', Michelle.
#19 nyc redneck: think abt. that hateful angry witch as first lady. not a pretty picture.
#36 oingo boingo: Michele Obama is just downright moronic. MO, if you ain't like'n it here, then get the hell out. I'm sure that scuzbag running Venezuela can find something for you to do.
#52 rawmuse; Hey, Michelle, you can always move to Kenya. Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya.
#61 blue eyed music lover: America is so mean that it lets people into Princeton University and Harvard Law School who aren't qualified, just because of the color of their skin.
#72 totally beserk: What an ignorant slut. Don't like America? Nobody's making you stay. She'll make a great First Lady...
#133 korla pundit: She can't be our First Lady, but she can be our First Tramp.
#146 bar: So the democratic choices are 1. Bitchy first lady 2. Bitchy president Its nice to know the democrats are so diverse.
#179 the shadow do: Anyone here have any doubts about who wears the pants at the Obama manse?
#189 russkillitlover: Speak for yourself, Beotch! You seem so disgusted with everything American. You really want to lead from a position of hate?
#209 Mandy Manners: Whiney-ass bitch.
#228 6pat6: Jeez, and this bitch wants to be the First Lady? ... Hey, Michelle...fuck off! How's THAT for "mean", hmmmm?
#236 Mandy Manners: Does that whiney-ass bitch still wear Maria Pinto?
#241 ergo sum: Yeah but Obamarosa gets to play the race card to excuse her contempable behavior and we have to bend over and take it. She sucks!
#250 Mandy Manners: I normally don't toss around the word "bitch" when refering to women but, I've decided to make an exception. Michelle Obama is a whiney-ass bitch. I might shorten it to "WAB."
#269 red satellite: I wonder how long the liberal-elite over at the NYT, WaPo...will put up with slang, ebonics, and colloquial diarrhea....
#274 6pat6: Michelle "I hate you white folk" Obama. Heard that one yesterday. Seems to fit her, IMO.
#373 Maximu§: Michelle, if you don't like America.....feel free to leave anytime.
#738 Joan Not of Arc: Wow, she's quite the philosopher. I'm sure Obama wishes he had a mute button for her mouth. I know I do.
#739 DockScience: I'd sure hate being a mirror at her house!
#741Wookieelips: Well, I think she's a downright grouchy, negative bitch.
#742 DanTheAmericanMan: If you are the woman who has captured the heart of Barack Hussein Obama, then God help us if he ever gets beyond that damn Senate seat he avoids using.
#759 SissyBlue: Ewwwwww, what a b*tch!
#767 rorschatch: I'd rather have Bill Clinton as a first lady than this bee-yotch.
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I'd say that you can think of her statements what you want, but the fact that _these_ guys are complaining, of all people, is just rich.
Charles of LGF should be truly ashamed. He constantly harps on the tenor of the messages he cherrypicks on other sites. But this slew of messages, all coming in response to just some criticism they can't take, show his site to be worse than the ones he targets and his followers to be petty, whining lowlifes.
Mr LGFWatcher, could you tell us if Charles has bothered to delete any of these in the meantime? Or is tolerated as the norm on LGF?
Oh honestly...they'll do anything to avoid actually whining outright about black people. Someone will eventually, and Charles will either reprimand or ban, but it will happen. At least these aren't the Dems who are saying these things....now they make me really sick criticizing Michelle Obama while supporting Hillary, whose views were widely reported on back in the 1992 campaign by her husband.
This won't end for a moment. Obama comes out as the clear winner in polls regarding national elections of who would win against McCain if the election were held now. The Dem Party is going to make sure it's Obama, I'm just sure of it, unless anything that is actually bad comes out about Senator Obama. I just don't think the delegates will go to Hillary, and we're going to be stuck with some downright hateful web posts and comments until November and possibly (hopefully for me) beyond.
For LGFWatch to debate about being "mean" or "cherry picking" is surely the height of irony. This has got to be one of the nastiest, "cherry pickingest" sites on the entire net. The entire damn site is based on that fact.
When I am in a particularly vile mood, I come here to rip you guys, fully expecting the same in return. You loathe me; I disdain y'all. It's the American way. We like it that way.
And there's nothing nastier on the entire net than the Huffington Post. If sniveling Michelle wants to throw rocks about being mean, perhaps she could start by taking a gander at the PuffHo.
So for once, I agree with this lightweight of a possible first lady. But I can guarantee you if you were to ask Michelle's former subordinates at work, they would tell you this ogre is the most wicked of them all.
I just verified that these comments have not been deleted. They're there, at least as of this time stamp.
Well, there are us Minnesotans.
Charles didn't follow up that thread with one on Rosie or Jimmy Carter, did he?
Anyway, during my time there, this was one of my favorite lines:
"Come and get me, scumbags.. I just got my permit."
The venom Michelle Obama is drawing reminds me of the coverage of Hillary back during Bill's first campaign. The wingnut mutterings about her began then and never stopped; they only increased, until there was a full-throated howl of rage directed at her. the same sorts of things are already being said about michelle O. They pretty much translate to: "uppity bitch who doesn't know her place."
Some of it is hatred of the "left", but most of it is fueled by good old misogyny. The talking points are falling into place in case Obama wins the nomination. If he doesn't, that's fine for them too. All the same memes have been and will continue to be perpetrated against Hillary.
I wonder if this is just the shape of the Republican smear machine in these times. Any putative Dem first lady will encounter it; and naturally any female dem candidate can expect it too.
This site kicks a$$.
has there been much publicity about that film by the dutch dude on lgf? i cbf looking for myself.
New Yorker, I think you are right. But comment 274 clearly brings race into the equation, and comment 767 implies it.
I know it's naive to be surprised, but Charles of LGF likes to use terms like "the fever swamps" and "shrill" for comments on his favorite whipping boys, sites like Daily Kos (which I don't read actually) but here he has created a forum for some of the ugliest and looniest comments around.
Anon, comment 274 clearly brings race into the issue.
LGFwatcher, could you tell us if anybody addressed this "6pat6" commenter?
Lex made it about black people, genius. Wow. You people are crazy.
Oh, man. You're vile. I saw that you edited your header and removed the word "racist" in order to make the other anon bad. Typical Leftist deceit. Sick.
The header on this website has been the same for months, probably years. Maybe one of the LGFW'ers can confirm.
Lex made it about black people, genius. Wow. You people are crazy.
Lex was making a point about hypocrisy. The post doesn't mention race, the Lizards do.
Holy crap. Look at the header for this webstie you assholes. Then look at Lex's comment. You all are fixated on race. I think you're projecting your own insecurities onto others. Every group has its bigots. The Left is full of anti-semites and Islamists. The Right has under-the-radar bigots, too. To act like THEY have the problem when its clear EVERYONE has bigotry issues (yours are clearly unresolved), that's just hypocrisy.
So when the left have anti-Semites and Islamists the right have 'under the radar racists'. Fucking hell! Not only can't your read, you'r a partisan retard to boot.
I did, I brought race into it, only because I have sifted through the comments on several Obama threads at LGF and I have seen comments in which some Lizards are trying very hard to make this about race. As far as I'm concerned as well, people commenting that blacks in America have no right to be on the constant look-out for echoes of the past (or can even complain about the past as it concerns their ancestors) are already turning the victim card around on themselves.
Personally, I base oppression most generally (in the terms being discussed here) on those who grew up disadvantaged, regardless of their race. But to pretend that some groups have had less to overcome historically is base hypocrisy and has become a rallying cry for much of the right. Whining along those lines can be seen in droves at LGF, all encouraged by Charles' non-posts which are frequently merely leading questions, answered in comment form by his "Lizards".
This isn't really hateful or otherwise on-topic, but you've gotta love this comment from LGF:
#202 bulwrk: The fact that you can get fresh fruit in the dead of winter shipped in from half way around the world should tell you how great this country is.
I suspect bulwrk believes you can't get winter strawberries in Tokyo, Berlin, Paris, Dubai or Seoul. After all, boats only go to America, right?
This isn't really hateful or otherwise on-topic, but you've gotta love this comment from LGF:
#202 bulwrk: The fact that you can get fresh fruit in the dead of winter shipped in from half way around the world should tell you how great this country is.
I suspect bulwrk believes you can't get winter strawberries in Tokyo, Berlin, Paris, Dubai or Seoul. After all, boats only go to America, right?
"I suspect bulwrk believes you can't get winter strawberries in Tokyo, Berlin, Paris, Dubai or Seoul. After all, boats only go to America, right?"
I suspect bulwrk doesn't know that there are other countries around the world that happen to grow their own fresh fruit in winter.
Nevertheless, comment #198 is very amusing:
"Germany: Get run over by people trying to get on a bus."
I don't know man, Germans happen to be the most civil people when it comes to getting on and off buses/trains. They always (ALWAYS!) wait outside till everyone who wants to exit has gotten off, then they enter. Impossible to get run over by people.
It gets better:
"Or... the German govt send two vans of riot police to an American high school to arrest a scrawny shoplifting kid, but can't seem to get together a similar force to provide security for olympic athletes in Munich."
By that retarded standard, I can easily think of anything just as stupid to say about 9/11.
On we go:
"Morocco: sleep with a gun under your pillow so you don't get your throat slit."
.. coming from the internet community that worships its guns, has bought extra weaponry and trained at rifle ranges for the highly likely event of Muslims taking over America and enslaving all its citizens.
"Mexico: wear a scarf so men on the street don't pull out chunks of your hair while stalking you."
I've got a story about harassment for you..
WCW,
comment 274 clearly brings race into the equation, and comment 767 implies it.
Yes; I wasn't clear. The Obama campaign is definitely bringing all the racists out, and a lot of that ugliness is being directed towards Michelle Obama. (In classic wingnut projection, their own racism is taking the form of claims that the *Obamas* are racists. The fixation on MO's Princeton thesis is part of that meme.)
I'm still struck by how closely the abuse Michelle Obama receives mirrors much of the abuse Hillary received. I'm not saying that racism isn't playing a role,(it CERTAINLY is), but I am saying that sexism and misogyny are playing a far larger one than most people seem to think. Look at 133 for example.
"I suspect bulwrk believes you can't get winter strawberries in Tokyo, Berlin, Paris, Dubai or Seoul. After all, boats only go to America, right?"
That reminds me...I must get more of those little Japanese strawberry gummies from the supermarket. :9
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