From the recent thread: http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32307_Innocent_Gazans_Suffering
#144 Charles
Here we go. I did not say I was "against carpet bombing." The reality is that indiscriminate bombing is not being used or even considered by Israel in this case, and they're not going to use it. It's not going to happen.
The only thing people achieve by fantasizing about killing 'em all is to make LGF look like an extremist site, and I don't like it.
Well, we don't like it either. Unfortunately though..
#126 Iron Fist
Yeah, I'm pretty much over all the motherfuckers in Gaza. They claim they want an independant State, but isn't that what the Israelis essentially gave them when they pulled out of Gaza? How's that working out?
It's past time that Israel finish the job in Gaza. There is no reforming for those people. They claim that they love death, and who can doubt them? They show their devotion on a daily basis.
It is time to put an end to it.
So, here's an open question to CJ: When are you going to consider banning this lunatic? He's obviously giving you lot a pretty bad name, seeing that he's been happily fantasizing about death for a few years now, without a note from you that he should start to behave.
Being quite the tyrant means that you should be capable of ruthlessly implementing your rules on your own site, and not - as we have shown here - talk about them while letting your fans humiliate you a few comments before.
Or does the armed ol' Fisty happen to know where you live, Charles?
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I don't care how 'guided' your missiles are, when you're dropping them on the most densely popualted urban area on earth you're doing it to kill innocent men women and children.
As for withdrawing out of Gaza and giving them an 'independent sate'? Might have been a valid argument if the IDF had lifted the illegal blockade.
Someone at LGF posted a link to a petition to stop Muslim immigration. Of course I immediately went over and signed it. Within minutes the link had disappeared. To Charles, wanting to return to the Judeo-Christian immigration policies that made America great in the first place, like the policies that existed pre-1965, is pure evil and won't be tolerated at LGF.
On the other hand, calls for carpet bombing, mass slaughter of civilians, ethnic cleansing and collective punishment are more than welcome in his comments section. Iron Fist can bay for the blood of Muslims all he wants with impunity, but if he ever questions current immigration policies he'll be banned lickety-split. LGF = Logic Gone Fishin'. I predict that LGF will eventually turn against Israel: Their immigration policies are too restrictive and they're just not bloodthirsty enough for Charles and his crew.
PS Yes I'm a horrible racist and Islamophobe. I thought I'd say it first and save you the trouble.
:)
LGF = Logic Gone Fishin'
I'll remember that one. Thanks :D
"I predict that LGF will eventually turn against Israel: Their immigration policies are too restrictive and they're just not bloodthirsty enough for Charles and his crew."
I don't know Jeppo, if they really are logically inconsistent (and believe me they are), they won't think of applying these criteria for shaping their own stance on Israel, the way you describe it.
"Judeo-Christian immigration policies that made America great in the first place"
What does religion have to do with it? Most illegal immigrants come from Christian countries. And the most immigrants from China, Japan, Vietnam, etc. -- all groups that have indubitably contributed to America's greatness -- are not Christian.
V,
Sorry, I should have phrased it "Judeo-Christian European immigration preferences.." rather than "Judeo-Christian immigration policies..". Religion and ethnicity and language are the primary building blocks of America's Anglo-European Judeo-Christian culture, a culture shared with Britain, Canada, Australia, etc., that has guided the way for the rest of the world to follow for the past three centuries or so. A culture that I would argue is now under threat from mass non-Judeo-Christian European immigration.
As for illegal immigrants, they should get their Christian (and other) asses deported forthwith, and a wall should be built so that they can never come back.
Have Asians really made such an indubitable contribution to America's greatness? How many Asians were on the Mayflower? How many fought in the Revolutionary War? Or on either side in the Civil War? Yes Chinese guest-workers helped build the railway, and there was a famous Japanese-American platoon that fought with incredible bravery in WWII, but the overall Asian contribution to American history was negligible, mainly because before the floodgates to Third World immigration were opened in 1965, they made up less than 1% of the population. America seemed to get along just fine with only a miniscule amount of Asians for the first 350 years of its settlement. Besides, how many white or black Americans would be allowed to legally and permanently emigrate to ANY Asian country anyhow? Probably almost none, so maybe it's time that we returned the favor.
"How many Asians were on the Mayflower? How many fought in the Revolutionary War?"
Well, how many Irish participated in these events? How many Poles? How many Swedes? Etc. Your remarks about non-white immigration echo those of nativists in the 1860s-1890s who argued passionately against mass immigration from any country that wasn't English-speaking and Protestant.
As for your final point, it's indistinguishable from the argument that is used whenever some right-winger tries to justify torture by saying, "well, our enemies do it, so we should do it too."
In this respect as in so many others, that's not the point. The point is that the U.S. should strive to be better than other countries are. Take Japan -- it's about to experience a severe and possibly terminal labor shortage. Would we be really be better off if we adopted a zero-immigration policy like Japan has?
In closing, please allow me to invite you to peddle your "culturist" stuff elsewhere. I believe I speak for the rest of the LGFW crew when I say we're really not interested.
"How many Irish participated in these events? How many Poles? How many Swedes?"
More than a few. Surely you've heard of Tadeusz Kosciuszko?
"Would we really be better off if we adopted a zero-immigration policy like Japan has?"
Absolutely, no doubt about it.
"Please allow me to invite you to peddle your "culturist" stuff elsewhere."
Umm..are you banning me? Oh well, it wouldn't be the first time I've been banned from a blog with the letters "LGF" in its title ;)
Well, to be fair to Jeppo, I disagree with almost every point he makes but still allow open commenting at my govvs site.
Admittedly on this topic I just can't agree with you either, Jeppo....it's really just so much smokescreen to point fingers when a country is perceived (either through massive demographic, economic, political etc. changes) to be in decline. The Romans did as much towards the Gauls and V is quite right about the nativist movements of the 1800s in America.
I can't help but be a bit on my rant from LGF 2 this morning (which I have yet to go back and see how bad I got pounded over THAT one) and the fact that "counter-jihadists" frequently stick up for any Eastern Christians (ANY, be they Coptic Christians claiming abuse to the Balkans to African Christians) if Muslims are involved. However, discuss any of these groups within America, Europe, Oz, etc. they immediately become suspect invaders out to change "our" societies.
Not just Christians, any reader of TROP will note the large amount of stories on infighting between Buddhists and Muslims in the South Pacific, yet these same Buddhists are not extended a hand of welcome, merely a wish for arming them at best and publicizing them at the least.
In short, I don't feel particularly welcome on any of these sites and my ethnicity and religion are regularly attacked (even when I was "one of you"), despite the humorous fact that my heritage aside from the Cuban branch is almost identical to that of Robert Spencer, a man beyond reproach by the "counter-jihadis".
OK, sorry about the rant, everything got all racial/cultural and I'm still worked up over "Aussie Infidel" at LGF 2, as if there's not enough at LGF Classic to be appalled by....LOL.
Ah, but Kosciusko was just one guy. Large-scale Polish immigration didn't start until after 1880 or so, and just as with previous and subsequent waves of immigration, it generated a lot of antipathy among native-born Americans.
And no, you're not being banned. However, we'd rather you didn't use this comment section as a substitute for not being able to comment at LGF.
"How many Asians were on the Mayflower? How many fought in the Revolutionary War?"
Well, how many Irish participated in these events?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/02/20030228-12.html
indicates:
"One-third to one-half of the American troops during the Revolutionary War and 9 of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were Irish Americans."
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